Comments on: What is the best value Avios flight per mile? https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/ Maximise your Avios points and frequent flyer miles Sun, 05 Mar 2023 19:25:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/521b7941d0c59828f9714337348c955d?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />cin2 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-828075 cin2]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-828075 In reply to Jonathan.

It’s never easier to change in the US. I refuse to do it now for any flight to South America even if I want to go to destinations other than BOG in Colombia.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/521b7941d0c59828f9714337348c955d?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />cin2 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-828074 cin2]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-828074 In reply to zapato1060.

Exactly. This table would not be used by anyone with sense.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1a1dc9856c83af5fd662736b46293e33?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Alex https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827887 Alex]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827887 In reply to Louis.

Not to mention better availability and a better product. You’d nearly be crazy to fly BA on that route – even with a 241.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/20ec82ca2b183b52977e8d279afb89cb?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />mvcvz https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827853 mvcvz]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827853 In reply to Jonathan.

What’s a Poundland?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/698039e1695e4d2fd470fe8ead28fe22?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Louis https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827836 Louis]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827836 The title should be for BA flights. Much better value with partners, for example, return LHR-SYD can be had for 180,000 in QSuite

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/6c06c72225e5f33d16653e84eac42762?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />F https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827815 F]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827815 In reply to Jonathan.

They used to do a quite novel ‘throne’ seat and then did it away with their ‘enhancements’. My mother flew to amman with it the other day in ‘j’ and they didn’t have her meal choice by row 6.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7ed499fc6bcf51934f32b7c8371bc693?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Anna https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827810 Anna]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827810 In reply to zapato1060.

Lol. I don’t think that’s the reason!
St Croix is a U.S. territory though, so I’m not sure why MaDonalds would be a novelty …

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/11c21fc9811e11ec4be52900967ce838?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Nick https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827809 Nick]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827809 In reply to Rhys.

No Seoul until (at least) they can use Siberian airspace again.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rhys https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827807 Rhys]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827807 In reply to louie.

I’ve had them say they can’t hold until midnight. I waited 5/10 mins and called again…and got the flights.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/362270406fa5cab6e2895d5510f03ffe?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Jonathan https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827805 Jonathan]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827805 In reply to Iranicus.

It might be easier to go via Miami to get some destinations in Colombia

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/49d3cf415d610285b460a5b299eca339?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Erico1875 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827800 Erico1875]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827800 In reply to ADS.

Very clever. Thanks

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/362270406fa5cab6e2895d5510f03ffe?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Jonathan https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827797 Jonathan]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827797 In reply to F.

I don’t doubt it for a second !

I went to Jordan immediately after I was done in Egypt and had an awful flight with BA, mainly due to them turning into a budget airline and not a flag carrier and great airline they once were.
Someone said here in the comments that another fellow passenger questioned the crew, and didn’t actually believe she had been seated in Business Class that she’d paid for, expecting a lie flat seat and IFE on their flight from Amman

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c91d7296be2b1d41e66a0eadfe1fd5c5?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />ADS https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827795 ADS]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827795 Really useful analysis. I’ve graphed it for you!

https://independenttravel.blogspot.com/2023/02/avios-required-per-mile-flown-graph.html

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827787 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827787 In reply to Brian P.

He wrote one – search 241 beginners.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/85752d35d39793c2181d91bc5e4d8fe7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />zapato1060 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827784 zapato1060]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827784 In reply to Iranicus.

Wish Iberia would do Asia so I could use the 241.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/85752d35d39793c2181d91bc5e4d8fe7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />zapato1060 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827782 zapato1060]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827782 In reply to Scott.

Well spotted. Very true.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/85752d35d39793c2181d91bc5e4d8fe7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />zapato1060 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827779 zapato1060]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827779 In reply to NorthernLass.

Hehe it’s that Caribbean charm. “Island time”. Wanted a quick bite of McDonalds, for novelty more than anything in St Croix. Fast food, more like slow food. Took 25 mins for a burger as I was trying to get attention moving and looking across the counter at people chatting in the back.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/69eabeb75a3c4b0728a9de9de55f4f1e?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Brian P https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827775 Brian P]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827775 In reply to Rhys.

Think the 355 booking and then nabbing the return leg is worthy of an article…

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/64d56fe89c825f0b25b91eed0cbd166b?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />AJA https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827768 AJA]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827768 In reply to Rhys.

But that’s even more of a reason to exclude it as very poor value indeed. Even though it does not price as a short-haul route, you only get short-haul cabin and service.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/362270406fa5cab6e2895d5510f03ffe?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Jonathan https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827760 Jonathan]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827760 In reply to rob keane.

For people who don’t do airline loyalty programs, that’s what the points system is called to them, in plain simple English without having to give a detailed explanation

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c634d1d34e0ef22d553a4e96772c9eac?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />rob keane https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827759 rob keane]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827759 In reply to No longer Entitled.

There are many things available for a pound at poundland, but your point is non-sensical, they do NOT call it airmiles any more, they do STILL call it poundland ???

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0f2623a6a43bb040792d3cb77b8d19a3?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />No longer Entitled https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827758 No longer Entitled]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827758 In reply to rob keane.

You will not enjoy your next visit to Poundland.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/10af99fe25563d1da6cab9b5a9e8b9bc?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />JERMLB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827755 JERMLB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827755 In reply to Rhys.

I managed to book 4 club seats using 2 new 2 4 1 vouchers to Sydney last month for travel in August. I was amazed 4 seats were available 6 months out but starting outside of London with the new vouchers does seem to open up many more options.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b4a214f3856bbc776c6eef0987282c55?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />louie https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827754 louie]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827754 In reply to Rhys.

Trust me, you have been lucky. That you got your phone answered at all by midnight, that they didn’t pick up early and say “I can’t hold until midnight”, that there weren’t multiple people doing the same as you that night, etc. I’ve not yet won that lottery.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/df9f50af473b44c1b5b267cdb870b1aa?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />elt https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827752 elt]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827752 In reply to Rhys.

Where do you call at that time?
Thanks

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e55d4b0299b1d491d9f51d3eff73b454?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />F https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827750 F]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827750 In reply to Jonathan.

I’m based in Amman and can assure you that RJ same route Y is preferable to BA J

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7e2270bc75e59cb8212523e2353e237b?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Iranicus https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827748 Iranicus]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827748 There are some great European fares to South America. I can see KLM or Lufthansa to Colombia for around £1,300 in business.

Whilst using a 2-4-1 and going via Madrid is still great value, it’s worth keeping an eye on the cash tickets too. Just incase you can find a more efficient use of avios, perhaps using them for a trip to asia where tickets are crazily priced at the moment.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a27dc49efbf3654bea5acc44c1e396b9?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Rizz https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827747 Rizz]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827747 In reply to david.

For the East Coast, based on a 1p per mile valuation, VS actually offers significantly worse value than BA (all-in, UC/J).

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rhys https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-2/#comment-827746 Rhys]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827746 In reply to Scott.

I believe both the Avios and taxes and fees are based on the distance, which BA splits into zones.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rhys https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/16/what-is-the-best-value-avios-flight-per-mile-2/comment-page-1/#comment-827745 Rhys]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=428025#comment-827745 In reply to Aston100.

I don’t think I am lucky, actually. All I do is call 15 minutes before the seats are available – go through BA’s security questions and then they get them.

I managed to do the same with Bangkok before covid – another very popular route.

If you’re willing to be on the phones at that hour (I got my return flights to Sydney at 3am Qatar time!) then you have a high chance of getting them.

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