Comments on: How to redeem Avios for First Class flights with British Airways https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/ Maximise your Avios points and frequent flyer miles Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:08:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b921b1b1ded56bbd61a94fa70f5d8138?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Retron https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-828154 Retron]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-828154 In reply to John.

Just to tie this up, in case anyone looks in future – that was on a JAL flight, which shows up if you do a specific date search on BA’s site. As of now, the same applies to the 2nd and 8th of Feb, one First seat available on JAL.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/11c98b73c796027faf3df8468e153496?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Paul https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-828077 Paul]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-828077 Are the Avios ex Heathrow (London) or is it the same from Glasgow?

Also if flying from a European city, say Amsterdam, is it a different Avios calculation

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8d49353e9126d2c6ab833da32096f5dc?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Steve Goodland https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-827991 Steve Goodland]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827991 I want to book a Sydney outbound and Singapore inbound in Mar24. I know I have to call a NYC call centre to grab 2 club seats as F will not be available and then similarly call 355 days beforehand to add my Return. I am using an Amex 2-1 voucher.

I use SeatSpy and should First subsequently open up would it be possible then to upgrade the Club Redemption seat to F and still benefit from the 2-1?

Or I bite the bullet and go Qatar and simply just use more miles. This is actually cheaper in taxes/service fees as would opt to travel from Europe somewhere?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f0dcef6da49680e6abc49960918d1dca?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />John https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827812 John]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827812 In reply to Ronster.

I can see that January availability on BA

https://imgur.com/a/GYN6Paw

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e8c7e8f1a8faa72a98a2ace81113a602?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Gordon https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-2/#comment-827527 Gordon]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827527 In reply to lumma.

+1

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b921b1b1ded56bbd61a94fa70f5d8138?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Retron https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827508 Retron]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827508 In reply to Ronster.

Rob was spot on – I grabbed the information from ExpertFlyer (they have a section where you enter a route and date, and it’ll tell you what’s available).

If First had been sold on the flights, you’d have seen something like F8 A4 at the beginning of the list – there are only two “fare buckets” for cash sales for First on BA.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b448a77ce65779557cd3c55a4f800f61?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />PH https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-2/#comment-827498 PH]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827498 In reply to babyg.

Small low res TV screens in A380 F compared to club suites

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cf6da9441f4124d022489c7badd6d71c?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Lady London https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827491 Lady London]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827491 In reply to Harry T.

A good BA F crew can make that aspect better though. QR in particular can be a bit robotic.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rhys https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-827482 Rhys]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827482 In reply to Bernard.

The only reason that “real F” business goes to Lufthansa et Al is because they have a “real F” product….obviously, to stay competitive you actually do need to stay competitive!

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/30e4f8fd162133b23acbd6fd901ae717?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Ronster https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827481 Ronster]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827481 In reply to Ruth4325.

Good evening Ruth

Hope your well

Do keep your eyes open for that.

In previous years Tokyo F availability during xma, has been quite good.

We only have to pray that BA bring it back on the 789-9. It certainly is a plane with it already in place, just not available at the moment, for either cash purchase or avios usage.

Ronster

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d200cbd290224a2c2d288f30e27d45af?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Ruth4325 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827480 Ruth4325]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827480 In reply to Retron.

Came here to say this! Terrible shame though. Would really love a couple of
F redemptions to TYO this Christmas.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/20a92056c3f84ad2f52bb63d9286072a?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />TB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827475 TB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827475 In reply to JDB.

Often quicker to do normal fast track and hang an immediate right into the Concorde lounge after security.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/20a92056c3f84ad2f52bb63d9286072a?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />TB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-827472 TB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827472 First all booked for Boston at the weekend. 777-200 with 8 seats. Not done this revised configuration yet. Did they refresh the F-seats when they did the Club Suites?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/62c4d8e753de58f5c9b455bc88404b85?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Mikeact https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-827468 Mikeact]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827468 In reply to babyg.

Too late…

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/07aa24714a6ec65a225e8296462226e0?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />babyg https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-827465 babyg]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827465 In reply to JK.

(sssshhhh)

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/678940b472534cee584333b99dbaf686?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Tariq https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827463 Tariq]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827463 In reply to Rhys.

BNA no longer has F either AFAIK.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/59f0e8ddd34afd734faeae1a18eaba86?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />lumma https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-2/#comment-827460 lumma]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827460 In reply to Mikeact.

The forum police (formerly known as the “this isn’t bits police) are the worst thing about hfp.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/30e4f8fd162133b23acbd6fd901ae717?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Ronster https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827457 Ronster]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827457 In reply to Retron.

Good evening all

Thank you again to Retron and Rob for this clarification

You always learn something new from this silly old game we play…..

Ronster

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7289b6b3906851109e07b850ae4e5153?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />JK https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-827455 JK]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827455 Fun fact: the BA website recently opened up extra First seats on a LHR-JFK flight when I used my newer companion voucher. Maybe they’ve changed their terms now but I thought it was only meant to work for opening up extra CW seats.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/48e9cbd371de1ced44129da906ccd932?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />T https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-3/#comment-827451 T]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827451 In reply to Julia Swain.

How is one supposed to mop up your lap?????

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/70915109ec7e561cfacbe8fb9d42b994?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Bernard https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-4/#comment-827450 Bernard]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827450 All this is before the 787-9 club suite update removes F.
BA mates also say that delay in 777X deliveries is leading to revised assessment on whether the 777Xs will have F as the ‘real’ F market now goes private or on Emirates or Lufthansa. Except Santiago, the 787-10, 77W and A380 can handle more than every possible commercial F route.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/838c86e339570b5285bc7eb5f31e40b5?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Joshua Critchley https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-3/#comment-827446 Joshua Critchley]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827446 In reply to Rob.

Exactly. Only the little people are fooled by that one! Pure avios for me in F as I use the guest list thing and barely more avios than for club now.
It’s quite a hoot round Berkeley Square gang that the Mayfair gang really got BA to make F almost ‘cheap’ compared to Club and then pretty much restricted it to anyone who wasn’t super golden.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827442 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827442 In reply to Ronster.

You need access to Expert Flyer or another system that can access Amadeus data, I think.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/30e4f8fd162133b23acbd6fd901ae717?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Ronster https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827441 Ronster]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827441 In reply to Ronster.

Hi Rob

Thanks for the update

Where is that info available?

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827438 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827438 In reply to Ronster.

Those are the seats available for cash – ‘I’ is discounted business class for cash, which is nil. R, D, C, J are ever increasingly expensive business class seat buckets. A bucket cannot show more than 9 even if more than 9 are for sale.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/30e4f8fd162133b23acbd6fd901ae717?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Ronster https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827437 Ronster]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827437 In reply to Retron.

Good afternoon Retron

Thanks foe replying.

I’ve checked with the BA Avios availability search and no JAL flights are available on either of those 2 days.

So strange that Seatspy has them appearing.

Can you explain what this info is and where its its available please

“BA7: J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0”

Thank you

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e8c7e8f1a8faa72a98a2ace81113a602?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Gordon https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-2/#comment-827426 Gordon]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827426 In reply to Gordon.

Also did you know that every utility company charges a percentage on your bill to pay for energy theft?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e8c7e8f1a8faa72a98a2ace81113a602?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Gordon https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-2/#comment-827424 Gordon]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827424 In reply to JDB.

@JDB Thanks for that, I was having a good day. Tbh I didn’t even notice as I just let the utility bills go out on direct debits.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/79a0943028ce5ece6c32cd9b496d2c2a?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />BlueThroughCrimp https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-1/#comment-827418 BlueThroughCrimp]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827418 In reply to E.

Not in the current winter timetable.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/62c4d8e753de58f5c9b455bc88404b85?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Mikeact https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/14/how-to-redeem-avios-first-class-tickets-british-airways/comment-page-2/#comment-827414 Mikeact]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=452584#comment-827414 In reply to JDB.

Happy memories..

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