Comments on: What is the best Avios credit card? https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/ Maximise your Avios points and frequent flyer miles Tue, 09 Jan 2024 18:51:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846587 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846587 In reply to Ian.

Because it’s not worth opening a new current account to make a modest saving on a few £k per year of FX spend.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8791b1060b3a4593d85922e54d82f1b0?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />yorkieflyer https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846552 yorkieflyer]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846552 In reply to RussellH.

It’s a multipack of Seabrooks actually! The best.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8230c90f03e0792e35e9202f0419534c?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />James https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-2/#comment-846520 James]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846520 In reply to Tom.

Wouldn’t that be an issue with the restaurant and not one with Amex?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/54a5f2730722f0857967821b3e8f9667?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Dev https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-2/#comment-846507 Dev]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846507 I’m happy that my preferred online wine broker accepts Amex! First £10k is whacked on BAPP, and for the rest of the year, use the Barclaycard! 2 vouchers in the bag (although tempted to go for the extra 7k Avios with the letter instead).

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e0b6512f04495cb794d8c6947dc65a54?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />CamFlyer https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846475 CamFlyer]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846475 In reply to Rob.

Probably a niche market, but I’m finding my Amex is far more widely accepted in Bangladesh than Curve, even in some rather surprising places. Maybe something about the Curve debit to credit model is inconsistent with the local processing infrastructure.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e6e3309b62707627309bf3a28d438156?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />GeoffreyB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846466 GeoffreyB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846466 In reply to RussellH.

Get that potato off your shoulder yorkieflyer

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846465 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846465 In reply to yorkieflyer.

No, all the girls at my daughters school do it. None of them seem to go near real drugs.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8791b1060b3a4593d85922e54d82f1b0?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />yorkieflyer https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846463 yorkieflyer]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846463 In reply to RussellH.

I rather thought vaping was a poor northern thing? Given we’re always been told we all live inside the M25 and are AB1’s I imagine there’d be greater interest in coke dealers who accept Amex?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8791b1060b3a4593d85922e54d82f1b0?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />yorkieflyer https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846462 yorkieflyer]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846462 In reply to JDB.

@JDB please don’t make such absolutist statements that you cannot possibly justify. I had my IHG closed after using it with Curve for normal overseas spending. I did not use is for manufactured spend. My wife’s IHG card was used in exactly the same way and survived the cull. Each to their own but I personally didn’t think that heavy abuse of the card with cash like transactions would last for as long as did for some more unscrupulous folk. I frankly was somewhat annoyed to lose the card and I suspect like others have binned Curve as other folks abuse clearly can jeopardise less ambitious card holders and I don’t want to lose any other cards I value.
On a separate note I do to be fair think Curve is a parasitic business model and I’m a little surprised card companies tolerated it from the start. At least Amex made it very clear where they stood early on.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/704ca0ef793c7d10d2c75e0286a5d36b?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />John https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846459 John]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846459 In reply to RussellH.

Lol. I’m curious as to what proportion of HFPers vape

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e6e3309b62707627309bf3a28d438156?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />GeoffreyB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846448 GeoffreyB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846448 In reply to Ian.

Chase

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3599218e4331ccc9e75f526397a2a8d7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />TooPoorToBeHere https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846444 TooPoorToBeHere]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846444 In reply to RussellH.

First of all I must say – I genuinely enjoyed the snobbishness of this post. I’m not having a go – it made me smile. Thank you.

Second – accepting (as you seem to) that non-acceptance of Amex is in fact real: it’s therefore easier to just use a card that’s accepted EVERYWHERE.

Third – Farmfoods does indeed sell a lot of absolute garbage and has a proper Wayne-and-Waynetta-Slob customer base, that is fact. It’s also, sometimes, seriously cheap for some staples, has permanent 8% discount by using vouchers, and for us – right next to Aldi so only adds 5 minutes to the shopping run…

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a15ac2bf7a13ae7e1319215dfb139b83?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Tom https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-2/#comment-846443 Tom]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846443 Cannot see me paying an annual fee for a credit card and am not a fan of Amex. So not much choice here. US cards are SO much more generous, there is no comparison.

Always remember the Indian restaurant in London that brought me my bill in a fancy Amex folder. And then told me they do not take Amex!

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1e63f6d6eae6b51afd8bb63a51fa2206?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Alex G https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846441 Alex G]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846441 In reply to Rob.

Curve limit is £1000 a month

https://help.curve.com/are-there-any-fees-associated-with-using-curve-HkkKBu2Lu

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846437 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846437 In reply to John.

We don’t believe they are. Next year is looking interesting though – I am expecting 2-3 launches in the space.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d9a36cc5587f339916f82e0b2e334a59?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />RussellH https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846436 RussellH]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846436 In reply to TooPoorToBeHere.

+1 for the Wise debit card, though for me it is mostly a backup to my Eurozone (+S and RO) and Swiss bank cards.
Will, I hope, be useful next time I am in Czechia.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d9a36cc5587f339916f82e0b2e334a59?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />RussellH https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846435 RussellH]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846435 In reply to TooPoorToBeHere.

> Chemist
Boot take Amex. Cannot recall the last time I paid a any other pharmacist any money
> Farmfoods
I am not that fussy about where I shop, but I am not at all sure that I would use Farmfoods
> Large online pet-food retailer Kiezebrink
Never heard of them. But my cats will only eat Aldi cat food + Alsi take Amex
> Vape shop
Enuff said!
> Arc’teryx online shop
Never heard of them
> Vet
True – but I do need to use non-Amex cards as well
> National Trust property
Been a life member for over 50 years, so not necessary
> Burger King (! – they said it was accepted, but it wasn’t)
Somewhere else whose doors I would not darken…
> Oxfam
Mostly, I give them stuff to sell, so I do not buy
> A couple of pubs
TBH, I am surprised at the number of pubs that do take Amex
> Several car parks
True, but one or two quid on an Amex rather than a MCard is not going to make much difference!
> Local petrol station, local coffee shop (IME the majority of small/independent retailers refuse Amex)
I did find one petrol station in rural Cornwall last month that did not take Amex, but that is the only time I have used such a place in many years. I mostly stick to supermarkets.
Coffee shops – again true, but again, whether or not I can spend a couple of quid on an Amex once every few months is not really relevant.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/22c11fe725cb4db06f13469c92aa6f36?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />fasul https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-2/#comment-846434 fasul]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846434 HSBC Premier WE card – non sterling spending gives you 4points(=2 Avios) for an equivalent of £1. Which somehow make FX fee of 2.99% bearable.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7b0616c40fe8ad3205859b6b29e95518?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />NorthernLass https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846432 NorthernLass]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846432 In reply to David.

1. No. 2. Yes/No. Probably best reading Rob’s guides and relevant forum threads.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9713e291d56bf2ce69eb15de7d90c161?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />JDB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846430 JDB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846430 In reply to Jonathan.

That is a total myth! I don’t understand why it gets perpetuated here. People haven’t had their Creation cards or any other cards cancelled for using them with Curve; many of those people (ie serious points collections) happened to have Curve cards and used them, but the past and ongoing closures relate to other matters.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/85752d35d39793c2181d91bc5e4d8fe7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />David https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846429 David]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846429 Hi,
1. Received a 241 on BAPP. Can I receive an economy 241 on downgraded free BA? in same year?
2. At my BAPP anniversary Jan 2024. Will my counter reset to zero or spending I’ve done before then count towards next 241?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0f2623a6a43bb040792d3cb77b8d19a3?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />No longer Entitled https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846427 No longer Entitled]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846427 In reply to TooPoorToBeHere.

If you shop in major chains all the time you will probably be alright, but I agree with TPTBH, acceptance at independent stores, and especially food and beverage, is very hit and miss.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3599218e4331ccc9e75f526397a2a8d7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />TooPoorToBeHere https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846425 TooPoorToBeHere]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846425 In reply to Jonathan.

Fascinatingly different experiences. Looking at where I’ve been unable to use Amex recently:

Chemist
Farmfoods
Large online pet-food retailer Kiezebrink
Vape shop
Arc’teryx online shop
Vet
National Trust property
Burger King (! – they said it was accepted, but it wasn’t)
Oxfam
A couple of pubs
Several carparks
Local petrol station, local coffee shop (IME the majority of small/independent retailers refuse Amex)

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3599218e4331ccc9e75f526397a2a8d7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />TooPoorToBeHere https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846424 TooPoorToBeHere]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846424 In reply to Jonathan.

I use Curve quite hard with Barclaycard Avios Plus.

There are issuers which have caused trouble but Barclays have not, thusfar.

If you’re worried about it, though, and want it for overseas spend – why not switch Curve to a “sacrificial” card – or at least one you don’t mind losing – for foreign spend.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846423 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846423 In reply to Tomasz.

You still get 1.5 Avios per £1 so you need to decide whether working towards a sign-up or annual spend bonus on another card is better.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/01d2dd824e05b56c56802c6952610af9?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Tomasz https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846419 Tomasz]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846419 Hi,
What happens if you reach the spend of £10k on Barclay Avios long time before your deadline? What happens with the spend above 10k? It’s not counted for the next year? My deadline is Feb 2024. Should I now do spend on other Cards because this one has already reached the 10k spend?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e6e3309b62707627309bf3a28d438156?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />GeoffreyB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846413 GeoffreyB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846413 In reply to TooPoorToBeHere.

Nothing to do with posh places. Poundland, for example, accepts Amex

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/362270406fa5cab6e2895d5510f03ffe?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Jonathan https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846412 Jonathan]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846412 In reply to Mark.

Using Curve cards has had people’s accounts closed by their credit card issuer, no names being named, but we all know in the back of our minds, but they’re not recommended, and there’s other reasons also noted in other comments why they’re not the best idea

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c45d8bdf5f0c31bfbb13e57e191dc9eb?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Chris R https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846411 Chris R]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846411 In reply to TooPoorToBeHere.

I find it genuinely rare these days to come across a place that doesn’t take Amex. And even if it doesn’t, it only takes a second to switch from my BAPP to the Barclays Avios, either physically or on Apple Pay

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/362270406fa5cab6e2895d5510f03ffe?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Jonathan https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/06/24/what-is-the-best-avios-credit-card-8/comment-page-1/#comment-846410 Jonathan]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=498308#comment-846410 In reply to TooPoorToBeHere.

Amex acceptance is poor ?

I don’t know where you do your shopping but it’s very rarely a problem for myself and almost certainly most other HfP readers and editors !
Yes Amex can’t be used everywhere, no one’s denying that, there are places that’ll only touch debit cards… it’s generally not a problem to deter daily usage of the cards

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