Comments on: Review: American Express Preferred Rewards Gold (Amex Gold) credit card https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/ Maximise your Avios points and frequent flyer miles Tue, 09 Jan 2024 19:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-836193 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-836193 In reply to Richard.

A supp on what? Gold?

If you’ve had no Amex cards in your name for the last two years, the maximisation route is this:

1 – Nectar or Marriott
2 – Platinum or BA Premium Plus
3 – Platinum or BA Premium Plus

This is only way to get 3 bonuses.

If you get Gold (and I don’t see why you would given the 60k bonus on Platinum at the moment) then you can still get BA Premium Plus later. I doubt you’ll see a 70k offer again though – this was BA going rogue.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/98611c390f8be2a104f852dd5dbdb892?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Richard https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-836191 Richard]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-836191 Hi Rob, I am looking to maximise Avois. I am currently using a supplementary card in my wife’s name. I am not 100% sure if I would be eligible for 2 welcome bonuses as below:

1. Sign up for the Amex Gold Card now – spend 3k to get 20 000 points and convert to Avios.

2. In addition to this, keep an eye out for a BA Amex Premium Plus Card welcome offer, spend 3k and receive the (additional – see above point) welcome bonus offer. I know there was a recent offer of 70 000 Avios so may be waiting some time for a new one.

Regards,
Richard

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-834621 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834621 In reply to Clemente.

Most people who have Platinum don’t spend on it, they just keep it for the benefits and direct spend elsewhere. I know I do.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/22bfde3db9208338cea7f76010dc8b4b?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Clemente https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-834588 Clemente]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834588 Rob, interested to hear your thoughts on whether the Gold Card is the superior travel card for gaining points compared to the BA Premium or Amex Platinum.
The Platinum has 1MR for all purchases while the Gold gives 2MR for all airline spend – this is a major detraction from the Platinum card, and it’s confusing as to why this has not changed.
Obviously the BA Premium Plus gives 3 Avios per £1 when spending with BA (not all airlines).
If one is not always spending on British Airways (but OneWorld nonetheless such as Iberia/American etc.) then a Gold Card would make more sense (from a points perspective)?
Curious to hear people’s thoughts on this. I’ve had a gold card in the UK for 2 years now and have been overall very happy with the card/service.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-834430 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834430 In reply to Vio.

Correct. You could get the Platinum bonus or the BA Premium Plus bonus though (assumning you’ve had no other Amex’s in the last 2 years).

After that, yes, Barclays it is.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a2e40e35126e8d7ae50f4648271763c3?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Vio https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-834412 Vio]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834412 Hello! I have a question: I currently have an Amex Nectar Card, which means I will not be eligible for the sign up bonus of the Gold Card, correct? If that is the case, which card is next best for Avios? Would that be the Barclaycard Avios Plus? Thank you!

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2f446b15ba5572c92023aecb1f4dea07?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />David H https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834372 David H]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834372 In reply to Harrier25.

Thank you. I will ask the question on the chat thread and see if anyone more helpful and less sarcastic responds. There may be some useful data points out there!

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9496eec7f5d00f2581d94f09f1754b4d?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />rio https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834356 rio]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834356 In reply to RussellH.

isn’t revolut better than wise? at least you get fee free transfers between currencies for the first 1k per month.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-834287 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834287 In reply to Raj.

Neither. You’d need to cancel and wait 24 months.

However you can get the Platinum bonus now, no need to cancel your BA card.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a3eca3ab73d16c0388f9814edf1516c4?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Raj https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-2/#comment-834284 Raj]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834284 I have a British Airways Amex card, can I apply and get the bonus points on the gold card? Or would I have to cancel and reapply?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d999f3b08cc21639d80ff888ca999716?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Harrier25 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834245 Harrier25]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834245 In reply to RussellH.

He should’ve lost it and then gone out to find a little more excitement when spending abroad. Halifax Clarity should’ve been left, long forgotten in the last decade.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d999f3b08cc21639d80ff888ca999716?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Harrier25 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834241 Harrier25]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834241 In reply to Mayfair Mike.

Why do people here even bother with Halifax Clarity? It’s just a boring run of the mill credit card with very few benefits.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d999f3b08cc21639d80ff888ca999716?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Harrier25 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834240 Harrier25]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834240 In reply to David H.

Well, that’s kinda like asking, how long is a piece of string.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9713e291d56bf2ce69eb15de7d90c161?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />JDB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834223 JDB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834223 In reply to Mike A.

An allegation of discrimination by Amex against retired people (if based on the protected characteristic of age) is a very serious one and almost certainly misconceived. The simple fact is that the criteria for credit have been tightened by most providers over the past 12 months; nobody of any age should necessarily expect to have applications accepted in the way they were previously. I’m not sure that having had various Amex cards over the last 12 years (with the implication that some are now closed) necessarily counts in your favour.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb9f67eef4bfcbebf152b427100f0b52?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Mike A https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834214 Mike A]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834214 In reply to Rob.

Which is exactly where the algorithms fail, they discriminate against someone that’s retired but not relying on an annual income. When someone highlights Retired in an application Amex should take a different route in its decision process. As an Amex member for 12 years holding various cards, I was refused.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834213 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834213 In reply to Mike A.

The algorithms look at the gap between your stated income and assumed expenditure. Graduate on £30k living rent free at home will get accepted before someone on £60k with a big mortgage, in theory.

That said, if you are only taking £10k per year from your pension (which would still be far more than, say, my Mum spends in a year) then its not hard to see why Amex wouldn’t give you a card with a £175 fee.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb9f67eef4bfcbebf152b427100f0b52?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Mike A https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834212 Mike A]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834212 This article states the following: “American Express no longer has a minimum income requirement for any of its cards”.
This isn’t factually correct, American Express discriminates against retired people, their algorithms even for existing card members look at income and decide to accept or reject on that basis. Of course many retirees who aren’t taking large incomes from pension pots are then discriminated against.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fa1e9d43cd0a81d95731e901bcad2071?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />aq.1988 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834211 aq.1988]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834211 I’m now into my 2nd year of the Gold and want to cancel it, purely because I’ve also recently taken the BAPP, and also have the BC Plus, and can’t justify 3 lots of fees.

I already have taken the free ARCC to keep my MR safe, rather than have to transfer to a partner.

The Deliveroo credits are useful but I don’t use it enough to justify the fee (I think I got £35 back last year).

I contacted chat to cancel and was offered 10k retention bonus to keep it, and accepted it. I know there’s no requirement to actually keep longer it but consider it bad form to cancel now, so will keep it until the next renewal.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d9a36cc5587f339916f82e0b2e334a59?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />RussellH https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834195 RussellH]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834195 I have the Horizon card too, but in my world the ½% refund is not really significant. Last year the card ‘earned’ me 49p, and I am pretty sure that the better MasterCard exchange rate from Clarity (cf. Visa for Horizon) would have cancelled a good part of that. But I do like to use both the cards occasionally – a friend of mine recently got a “use it or lose it” letter from Halifax about his Clarity card. Needless to say, he went out and used it a couple of times that day.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9713e291d56bf2ce69eb15de7d90c161?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />JDB https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834169 JDB]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834169 In reply to FatherOfFour.

Yes, the regular bonus plus foreign spend and airline bonus make this very worthwhile. While foreign airline spend incurs FX fees, it’s still much cheaper than getting the airline to do the conversion, let alone the cost of booking via international sites, plus you get s75 that has proved useful over the years so with 3MR + 0.5MR bonus that’s a good deal as far as I’m concerned. Similarly for foreign hotel deposits, 2MR, 0.5MR bonus and s75 very happy with that. My son now uses the Deliveroo benefit which adds to the value proposition on top of this card being by far the highest earning one for my spend pattern.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d9a36cc5587f339916f82e0b2e334a59?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />RussellH https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834157 RussellH]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834157 In reply to Mayfair Mike.

I am surprised that (Transfer)Wise multi currency a/c does not get more attention here.
If you have no interest in Virgin miles, Clydesdale/Yorkshire/”Virgin” Money current a/c debit card is also free to use in Eurozone/Sweden/Romania.
And if you are lucky enough to live in Cumbria or North Lancashire, a Cumberland Building Society debit card is free to use anywhere.
I agree that Halifax Clarity should be in any traveller’s pocket, even if it is only a backup to other cards (in my case two Eurozone debit cards and a Swiss debit card).

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834149 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834149 In reply to Mayfair Mike.

One of these is a massively complicated product with byzantine rules, and one is a credit card which will reduce your capacity to take out other miles-earning credit cards.

Is it really worth it to save an extra £10 on £2,000 of foreign spend?

Clearly is for some but I’m not convinced.

(Before anyone mentions it, we get paid substantially more by Curve than Currensea if a reader takes out a card.)

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b132c7fee20cd4f00976645303459510?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Mayfair Mike https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834145 Mayfair Mike]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834145 Better options than Currensea when purely looking to spend abroad for no/low fee. Curve or Halifax Clarity to give 2 better alternatives for starters

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834143 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834143 In reply to RussellH.

Yes, we reran that article a few weeks ago if you search.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2f446b15ba5572c92023aecb1f4dea07?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />David H https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834135 David H]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834135 In reply to Rui N..

Thanks. Agree you could apply straight away but how long a gap would it be advisable to leave in order to have a good chance of being accepted ? That is what I am hoping someone has some insight into !

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d9a36cc5587f339916f82e0b2e334a59?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />RussellH https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834125 RussellH]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834125 I have not looked at the Deliveroo site since giving up my Gold Amex a year ago; do Deliveroo still have their link for donating food to those who have no money for food?

Apart from being a way of using the credit for those who do not live anywhere near Deliveroo, you earn 120 points for an outlay of 24p.

Not massive, but an impressive earning yeld!
🙂

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d8de64c80c32c4df7fe139b21b974e44?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Maples https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834090 Maples]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834090 The Deliveroo offer has been extended until October 2023, and I wonder if it’ll continue after that.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ccbcde157b0664aa417e14bed45bfbf8?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />FatherOfFour https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834088 FatherOfFour]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834088 I really value the bonus points (2500MR for each £5000 spent up to £25k) I estimate this is around our annual CC spend, so effectively we are getting 1.5 flexible MR per £, as opposed to the 1 base point.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/bce8151999f3c707d66a2c8013068be5?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Rui N. https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834086 Rui N.]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834086 In reply to David H.

Yes you can. No guarantee you’ll get it approved of course.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2f446b15ba5572c92023aecb1f4dea07?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />David H https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/03/31/review-american-express-preferred-rewards-gold-amex-gold-credit-card-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834083 David H]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=472402#comment-834083 If you held the card for a year then cancelled when the 2nd year fee kicked in, when can you re-apply in order to benefit from another free year? Disregard the sign-up bonus qualification which my son would struggle to achieve anyway – he is just interested in another free year with Deliveroo credit, lounge passes, reward points etc. Hope someone can give an indication even if there is no written rule.

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